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PRCA Board / Great Bullman passes!
« Last post by newby on December 31, 2013, 08:30:13 PM »
Dan Russel passed away on the 29th. He was a great bullman and a very good friend. Big Dan I will miss you!!
PBR Board / Fan Club Memerships
« Last post by REZ on December 29, 2013, 09:38:49 PM »
Well, just renewed my membership and nearly choked on the $164.45 that it cost so that I can continue watching the LEC.  Geez.  Is it only me who finds that extremely expensive, even outrageous, really?! :-\
PRCA Board / Re: Interesting reports out on NFR
« Last post by highline on December 29, 2013, 03:27:03 PM »
Ok.  I am dumb for thinking that a person paying to compete for a living, given no salary to live on, is the the downfall for suing to be able to compete outside the organization as a means of making his living.  The evolution of the sport and such a lawsuit has given rise to the USTRC, PBR and other organizations.  All of which put large amounts of money in the pockets of cowboys.  Being confined to one organization would not have allowed the contestants to compete in more lucrative venues.  Ohhhh... I see where you are coming from  ;D

What exactly is your contribution to the PRCA other than judging rodeos for less than it cost you to travel to them?  Not being smart.  I really do not know. 

The whole notion to having to be a member to be supportive of rodeo or invested in its success is interesting and limited in its view.  IE- the PBR, quality of bulls in the PBR and quality of riders in the PBR all existing with many not being eligible for PRCA events.

 Thank you for hijacking my post to Shorty and appreciating what he and the  volunteers have done for rodeo. 

PRCA Board / Re: Interesting reports out on NFR
« Last post by newby on December 29, 2013, 03:15:14 PM »
You are truly a open mouth with no knowledge and you make me laugh!! If you do not see the reason for the dennis George  decision being the downfall of the PRCA you have never been a member!!! OH That's right you have never been!!! But  I really don't feel like trying to talk about something that is so far above your pay grade it will not be understood and I truly will not lose any sleep over you not being able to sell some duckin buckin horses!!
PRCA Board / Re: PRCA rejects $1,000,000 in exchange for paying to be on CBS
« Last post by highline on December 29, 2013, 02:12:31 PM »
Interesting that Wrangler was indicated as the driver behind the decision to pay for TV time vs being paid to be on TV.

I like RFDTV and appreciate the progress they are making in catering to the western way of life.
PRCA Board / NFR 2013
« Last post by highline on December 29, 2013, 02:10:32 PM »
Enjoyed watching the NFR this year!!  In the rough stock events I noticed a several judging decisions that were very influential in the world title race.  *Missed out, marked out and bucking off right at the whistle.

I would in no way say if the calls were right or wrong but some of the decisions were calls that appeared to have been so close that they could have went either way.  Being on the floor of the arena is definitely the best vantage point. 

Considering so much is on the line in the world title race, when will the PRCA put in place a "challenge" button or the equipment to review a close call?  Lots of money on the line and world titles seem to be significant enough for the extra measures. 
PRCA Board / Re: Interesting reports out on NFR
« Last post by highline on December 29, 2013, 02:06:32 PM »

It's not "my" rodeo, but it has grown from $ 100.00 added per event to $ 6,175.00 added per event thanks to a hard working bunch of volunteers and strong community support, and their association with (and support from) the PRCA and WPRA.  I'm just a volunteer grunt at the rodeo and stumble around trying to help out if I can.

Shorty-  that is progress and impressive strides.  That % of revenue increase into the world of rodeo should not be unappreciated.  The volunteers, strong community support and fans is the unsung backbone of the sport.  Many forget that sponsorship is money paid to a rodeo with the expectation of a return on that money vs a donation. 

Rodeo definitely need enthusiastic support and needs people that understand the simple math that equates to profitability.  Profitability is absolutely necessary for anything to survive.  *Perhaps museums get guvmint money to "preserve" the past. 

Rodeos demographics are changing- as you know.  Agriculture has turned to either a welfare industry or corporate run way of life.  The rural farm and ranch people are not the same as they was even 20 years ago.  The "see and be seen" rodeo people that enjoy participating in the behind the scenes support of rodeo is a different crowd.  The "social gathering" of the old school ranch cowboys at the rodeo is drying up.  Sure there will always be some of those old cowboys around and there are a few coming up but the numbers are shrinking.   

The notion of a family rodeo in Florida may work.  Hard to say if people will be able to afford a $3000-10,000 vacation to the NFR, Disney World and Sea World.  As credit dries up, disposable income is shrinking fast.  Very few families can actually save $5,000 a year.  *This money also has to be dug up just before the Christmas season.

The other wild card in this scenario is that Las Vegas will likely have a rodeo during the time period of the NFR- if the NFR leaves to Florida.  Moving to Florida is leaving the door open for others to capitalize on the time slot in Vegas. 

It's sad that a "clique" exists that has no issue with losing Houston, Calgary, Pikes Peak Or Bust etc and under appreciates business people that understand profitability.  Add the under appreciation of the volunteers that work behind the scenes to make a rodeo go and it all adds up to a huge amount of arrogance. 

The PRCA has not had a significant push against them at the level of what may be brewing.  Houston, Calgary and others are extremely significant.  *The PRCA better damned well appreciate the loyalty of Keith Martin and San Antonio.

Dennis George and others have not been the downfall of the PRCA.  The idea of being exclusive to an organization that demands you pay to compete and offers no financial stability is ludicrous.  Who would work a job that dictated what was done in the off time if it didn't pay extremely well?

It is great that rodeo has people like you, volunteers and fans that support the sport.  That support is what has allowed the PRCA to grow. 

The Big Board / Re: Question
« Last post by highline on December 28, 2013, 08:07:44 PM »
It's been quite awhile back but I read an article that broke down all the costs of owning one of those large bus/rv's. 

The bottom line equated to it being cheaper, overall, to travel in a Cadillac and stay in the nicer hotels vs the bus. 

Your buddy will likely get a lot of "yeah, I'll jump in and help pay".  When it all shakes out most of them guys won't be in the bus. 

Like bullman said- a lot of factors.  I'd add that it'd also depend on all people drawing well and not needing to turn out at various rodeos. 

The other side of the economics is that bus will cost $ every day- whether it is used or not.  I believe the maintenance on those units can be expensive.  The harder they are run the more things that can wear out. 
PRCA Board / PRCA rejects $1,000,000 in exchange for paying to be on CBS
« Last post by highline on December 28, 2013, 08:02:11 PM »
The owner of a TV network that covers Western and cowboy lifestyles is baffled by the Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association’s decision to pick CBS Sports Network over his network to broadcast the Las Vegas-based National Finals Rodeo.

Patrick Gottsch, founder and chairman of Omaha, Neb.-based RFD-TV, said he offered $1 million to the PRCA for the broadcast rights for the NFR, considered the Super Bowl of rodeos. Gottsch said RFD-TV planned to broadcast 200 hours of PRCA content such as the NFR and other PRCA “Champions Challenge” events to 65 million homes.

Instead, the PRCA announced this month that it will pay CBS Sports Network to broadcast 48 hours of the NFR and other Champions rodeo events in 2014 and 2015. The CBS Sports Network’s website said it’s available to 96 million homes, but Gottsch disagreed and said the CBS Sports Network’s reach is 53 million homes.

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